Vidski's Neverput course!!!!!! (Alpha release) (Page 1 of 2)

Ohh yeah I forgot, You will notice everything is a par 7 because I havent decided what they should be. Any suggestions are welcome.

Looks really incredible visdki! Your levels looks very difficult and fun to play. Should we gauge our suggestions for par numbers based on what we think would be a typical run, theoretically possible, theoretically possible plus one, or some other method? I'm just wondering if you have a "difficulty" rating in mind, and whether the par numbers should reflect that.

I will try and find time soon to try them out.

Wow, these are great.

I just sent you an email with some t-intersections i spotted, and one or two textural items.

The only other comment I have (besides "f*&%king great!") is trhat on the 1st hole with the spiral ramp,
due to the distance of the vantage point and the size of the spiral, the moment when the ball hits the teleport, it is blocked from view.
This is only a little frustrating because you want to see everything that's happening,
I wonder if the exit ramp could just be longer so that the ball comes back into view before hitting the teleporter.
although I realize I am accustomed to neverball, where the view is closer and you can turn the camera at will and take a look around.

Another thought is what about putting teleporter textures at the arrival points, although I know this can be misleading, as they are not 2 way, but who would want to go backwards anyway?

just some thoughts...
Great course vidski, can't wait to play it again.

On hole 11, there is some Z-Fighting on one of the platforms you land on when you start the hole (only one of the four is affected).

Oooh, glass.  Good thinking. I'd say yeah, definitley preserve the playability, as you've obviously put lots of care into making these things work.

Hey I cant find the t intersection you are talking about in hole 8 where you circled in your email.  I did find one in the outside corner of that same part but not where it joins the ramp down..

Yeah i know all about the ending spiral on hole 12 (crazy stars),  its was a similar problem i had with hole 2 but im gonna fix them both, as they are copies it will be 2 for 1.

As for the funnel hole,  13 i think.  I am , uummm,,  lol,  I dont know wtf I am going to do with this one yet, This funnel in putt is becomming a real pain in the A. The ball takes forever and a half to make it down the tunnel. I might just have to make the hole at the bottom bigger so the ball falls faster. Also putt glass walls on the outside or make the make the funnel bigger to prevent the ball bouncing out.

I fixed textures on 10 and 11, and ramps on 7, I extended the exit ramp in hole 1. Zfighting and T-ints on 11 should be fixed as well.

tnx a lot man, keep them comming!

I am glad to hear that, but do not let your efforts with neverball drop because of putt. Building this course has taught me something. Overall, neverputt is inferior to neverball. (in almost every way) I mean face the facts man. Compare the ammount of develpment effort ball gets compared to putt.  Ball has customizable and on-the-fly view control. This alone gives ball far more capabilities than putt. Textures arent supported in putt, it can not handle stop and go situations. With neverball, you are in constant control of the ball, which also provides advantages. In neverputt, once you hit the ball, it goes where it goes and you cant stop it. Itts, you know.  I mean look at what the majority of people on this forum would rather play. Look at what game the majority of ppl on the forum actually put effort into.

I may be wrong, and if so I apologize, but from what I can tell paxed, you,  and myself are the only people who have done any level progression for putt recently. Where as there are at least a dozen people currently working on neverball levels. Putt is just like, unpopular compared to ball.  Thats all I gotta say.

This it what puts the last nail in the coffin.

I am not bitching, complining or anything of the sort. (cause I love putt and im glad he even gave it 7 days) Im simply saying. Mentality like this spreads like a virus. And because I am not willing to get code level on this project, I have no other choice but to 'fork it'

Last edited by vidski (2007-04-19 06:25:00)

vidski...

I am hoping you will bring your course to completion, polish it a bit, as it's a real crown jewel for neverputt.

THEN, I'm hoping you'll feel like getting involved in designing some levels for neverball.   

ohh no no no. That's not the point! 

I do not use 'fork it" to bash or incriminate on the developer himself in any way.

I am using the term as leverage, in hopes that putt will get code level attention. Sooner, rather than Later.       

I had some improper wording in the post when I caught it today. It was expect, not except.

Last edited by Challenge Space Yard (2007-06-05 18:19:10)

yeah, what good's a hole-in-one without a replay!

No more progress?...